COP28, the annual conference aimed at mitigating climate change, begins Thursday, coinciding with the latest meeting of the OPEC+ group of oil-producing nations. Both gatherings will feature much conversation about oil production and what the future holds for the lucrative, vital, but damaging industry.

MSNBC anchor and chief economic correspondent Ali Velshi joins host Peter O’Dowd to discuss.

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