Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates on re-imagining public diplomacy

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NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks with Robert Gates, former Defense Secretary and founder of the Gates Global Policy Center, about the center's new report focused on re-imagining public diplomacy.

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Mary Louise Kelly is a co-host of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine.
Ashley Brown is a senior editor for All Things Considered.
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